Wang Jiansheng (right) Wang Jiansheng is a four-member. He is the secretary-general of the Xinjiang Hetianyu Market Information Alliance Chamber of Commerce, the vice president of the Xinjiang Jewelry and Jade Jewelry Industry Association, and the deputy secretary-general of the Xinjiang Arts and Crafts Association. He also runs a company called Boya Jade. Company, as general manager. Wang Jiansheng joined the work in 1987 and was assigned to Huaxi Special Arts & Crafts Co., Ltd. At first, Wang Jiansheng did not directly engage in jade work, but served as a gem cut, but not long after, 90 years ago, he switched to management work. Because it is necessary to manage the jade workshop at the same time, and began to deal with jade from now on, this deal has been nearly 30 years. From state to private Market demand urges production restructuring The topic started from Wang Jiansheng's own business. After more than 20 years of experience, Wang Jiansheng witnessed the transformation of Xinjiang Hetian jade market from the state-owned planned economy to the market step by step. It also brought unprecedented unprecedentedness to the industry because of reform and opening up. Vitality. Yachang Art Network: And you are now operating a jade shop, the main business category is? Wang Jiansheng: Seed material, Hetian jade. Mainly based on the work of carving good works, mainly engaged in master works. The works of Guo Haijun and Fan Junming from Xinjiang are now sold and are being continued. The mainland masters include Ge Hong, Zhao Xianzhi, Hou Xiaofeng, Ye Qing, and Liu Zhongrong from Shanghai. Artron Art Network: Why did you decide to abandon the state-owned enterprise and turn to your own business? Wang Jiansheng: This is a question of the state-owned system. The road is getting narrower and narrower. Not only us, Shanghai Jade Factory, Beijing Jade Factory have the same problem. We are a military enterprise. In 1998, we did not allow business. The enterprises all handed over to the localities, and the rectification units were handed over to Xinjiang Finance and Economics College. After the University of Finance and Economics took over, we didn’t have much interest in us. We could not teach finance and economics, and we were in a dilemma. In 2004, he asked for a post and went to work. Yachang Art Network: After all, from the 90 years of formal contact with Hetian jade, you have the most say in this market. What are the main changes in these years? Prices? Others? Wang Jiansheng: Changes in the industrial model. The dominant position of the original state-run was replaced by a private economy and self-employed individuals. The time of change is probably since the establishment of the gemstone association in 1993. Yachang Art Network: Can you understand this? Before 1993, the jade industry was also monopolized by the state. At that time, there was no dealer in the primary market. The carving masters basically served the country. Wang Jiansheng: At that time, I had to set up a tourist-designated unit. I sent a sign with two camel marks on the top of an ellipse. I don’t want to receive foreign cards without that card. Because it is necessary to check your business area, health status, etc., it is impossible for self-employed individuals to open a license, and only state-owned enterprises can satisfy them. Jade out of Xinjiang also has to issue a certificate, otherwise it will be smuggled and will be confiscated. We are a state-owned unit that can open a territory certificate. I have sent a lot of jade to the border. At that time, there were already a lot of private enterprises in Shanghai and Beijing, and we started to make jade for them. There is a Cao boss in Beijing. I sent him seven containers a few tons of things. It made me shocked. I can ask for so many goods. Is he a Beijing jade factory? However, he is a self-employed person. clear. After another five years, the second change came in 1998, and the studio dominated by the household. In the primary state, there was no master studio, called the workshop. The factory is still called the factory. The demand of the market has led to the continuous expansion and expansion of this industrial chain. Zhenping is very large and has become the distribution center of our country jade. The previous goods have come from there. Every household in each village produces different products. There are small ornaments and large furnishings. The village is a brand, and the village is a miscellaneous piece. Although it has formed a certain scale, this intensive production only shows a large output, but the artistic level is very low. Suddenly one day, Master Studio began to take the lead. At the beginning, the business was very poor, but by the first shock wave in 1998, another shock wave came in 2000, and finally broke out in 2003. In 2005, I followed the market and opened a store to do business. Yachang Art Network: Why is it called “blowoutâ€? For example, how did the 2003 blowout bring to the Hetian jade market? How did the mining of raw materials, the trade of jade merchants, and the workshop of jade carving masters change? The funds are continuously injected here? Wang Jiansheng: The blowout in the past showed a large demand, but the price did not rise. But 2003 is indeed a starting point, and then the price changes frequently every month. To give a realistic example, we did not have a lot of high-end jade in the past. I bought a Uyghur man’s total price of 370,000 in 2001. I only took a little to the Shanghai studio to make a beautiful product. Some money. But at that time, the seed material was expensive, and the Tianshan material, the Russian material, and the Qinghai material were sold because they were cheap. If you buy a mountain material to make a bracelet, you can not only flow faster, but also earn more. So I regretted buying so expensive seeds. Later (03), the Uighurs found me again and proposed to recover the remaining seeds at the original price of 370,000. I promised without hesitation. But from now on, at that time, the horizon was not open enough, and should go out in time. The high-end market in Shanghai is becoming mature, and Xinjiang has gradually moved to high-end since 05, 06, and 07. Artron Art Network: A few steps away from Urumqi today, you can see a jade shop or studio. When did this scale occur? After the 1990s, other jade materials were also raised. The mining volume of Kunlun jade in Qinghai was very large. Xinjiang was attracted by its reputation, and a large number of shops were stationed. Wang Jiansheng: In 2007 and 2008, there was a spurt of the market. The market has sprung up, and today there is a market, and Minger has come up again. Urumqi has developed into a jade-free street, and there is no jade shop in the streets and lanes. It seems that it is not called “street†but “small alleyâ€. Artron Art Network: Since 2011, the art market has undergone a lot of adjustments, and there have been many shock categories. So far, it has not fully recovered. During this time, what is the situation of the Xinjiang jade market? Wang Jiansheng: The main reason for the slow spread in Xinjiang may be that this place is remote. The advantages of the place of origin also bring great benefits to Xinjiang. Mainly reflected in the fact that many mainlanders come here to travel and feel that buying jade here is the most authentic, even if Russian and Qinghai materials choose to buy here. Some merchants often take advantage of this. Anyway, the broad appraisal is also the concept of Hetian jade, the fuzzy origin. Of course, from the first two years we have asked to regulate the market and strictly mark the place of origin. Hetian jade market urgently needs to be standardized Artron Art Network: Hetian Yu's narrow and broad concepts let many people hold their own words. Which one do you support? Wang Jiansheng: I support the national standard. I don't think that wheat can be called sorghum. First, it is wheat. There are also three or six hexagrams in the tremolite. I have also discussed with Russian and Yutian materials, and I have no intentions. There are some traits that are more obvious. For example, the old sugar in Russia in 1996 and the sugar in the end are very close. For Hetian, each mine is also different, and the feelings of the end mine, Ruoyu mine and Yecheng mine are different. We Chinese have an old saying called "æ£æœ¬æ¸…æº", we must reflect the real situation to the customer, let consumers understand what is more expensive. It is because of this difference that it needs to be clearer and more transparent. I am pursuing this, and I am not pursuing Hetian Hetian. Yachang Art Network: Why is it called “blowoutâ€? For example, how did the 2003 blowout bring to the Hetian jade market? How did the mining of raw materials, the trade of jade merchants, and the workshop of jade carving masters change? The funds are continuously injected here? Wang Jiansheng: The blowout in the past showed a large demand, but the price did not rise. But 2003 is indeed a starting point, and then the price changes frequently every month. To give a realistic example, we did not have a lot of high-end jade in the past. I bought a Uyghur man’s total price of 370,000 in 2001. I only took a little to the Shanghai studio to make a beautiful product. Some money. But at that time, the seed material was expensive, and the Tianshan material, the Russian material, and the Qinghai material were sold because they were cheap. If you buy a mountain material to make a bracelet, you can not only flow faster, but also earn more. So I regretted buying so expensive seeds. Later (03), the Uighurs found me again and proposed to recover the remaining seeds at the original price of 370,000. I promised without hesitation. But from now on, at that time, the horizon was not open enough, and should go out in time. The high-end market in Shanghai is becoming mature, and Xinjiang has gradually moved to high-end since 05, 06, and 07. Artron Art Network: A few steps away from Urumqi today, you can see a jade shop or studio. When did this scale occur? After the 1990s, other jade materials were also raised. The mining volume of Kunlun jade in Qinghai was very large. Xinjiang was attracted by its reputation, and a large number of shops were stationed. Wang Jiansheng: In 2007 and 2008, there was a spurt of the market. The market has sprung up, and today there is a market, and Minger has come up again. Urumqi has developed into a jade-free street, and there is no jade shop in the streets and lanes. It seems that it is not called “street†but “small alleyâ€. Artron Art Network: Since 2011, the art market has undergone a lot of adjustments, and there have been many shock categories. So far, it has not fully recovered. During this time, what is the situation of the Xinjiang jade market? Wang Jiansheng: The main reason for the slow spread in Xinjiang may be that this place is remote. The advantages of the place of origin also bring great benefits to Xinjiang. Mainly reflected in the fact that many mainlanders come here to travel and feel that buying jade here is the most authentic, even if Russian and Qinghai materials choose to buy here. Some merchants often take advantage of this. Anyway, the broad appraisal is also the concept of Hetian jade, the fuzzy origin. Of course, from the first two years we have asked to regulate the market and strictly mark the place of origin. Hetian jade market urgently needs to be standardized Artron Art Network: Hetian Yu's narrow and broad concepts let many people hold their own words. Which one do you support? Wang Jiansheng: I support the national standard. I don't think that wheat can be called sorghum. First, it is wheat. There are also three or six hexagrams in the tremolite. I have also discussed with Russian and Yutian materials, and I have no intentions. There are some traits that are more obvious. For example, the old sugar in Russia in 1996 and the sugar in the end are very close. For Hetian, each mine is also different, and the feelings of the end mine, Ruoyu mine and Yecheng mine are different. We Chinese have an old saying called "æ£æœ¬æ¸…æº", we must reflect the real situation to the customer, let consumers understand what is more expensive. It is because of this difference that it needs to be clearer and more transparent. I am pursuing this, and I am not pursuing Hetian Hetian. Yachang Art Network: What is your current business model? Is it a jade material for master processing? Is the current business a fixed source of customers? Or is it random? Wang Jiansheng: Some of the raw materials came in and sold, including the masters who bought my raw materials. Those who come to Xinjiang to come and play will also buy it. I respect the master very much, and I have bought it for ten yuan. If you want it, I will give it to you. If you add some money, I will smile. It doesn't matter if you don't add it. There is still a part of me to ask the master to process, there is a master of Fan to process me, and Suzhou's 裘军义, Ye Qing they also give me processing. Recently processed two are the works of Cao Wei. He is a young jade carving master of the Shanghai School and he did a good job. I also went back to the master studio to visit. When I saw the master's raw materials, I would also make a purchase and give me a discount. In short, according to market conditions, if things are high, I will have no space. There are random customers and a circle of their own, but this circle is getting smaller and smaller. So I just remembered to write an article to discuss time and space issues. Artron Art Network: What are your expectations for the future of the entire jade carving industry in Xinjiang? Wang Jiansheng: The jade carving industry in Xinjiang has received a lot of attention from the government in recent years. It was impossible for the government to give money before, but now we have done the awards, the government has saved money; we have also conducted seminars, and the government has given money; we spent more than 100,000, but the government gave Wan; please ask the masters of the mainland to give money, and the government supports it. The industry should be a promotion. In addition, people in our industry have always had firm confidence in this industry. This confidence is not from the party and the government, but from history. After all, it has been inherited for thousands of years. It is not that collapse has collapsed. It is definitely not real estate. Cultural accumulation will never be like the steel market. When real estate does not work, it will plummet. However, there is also a process of big waves in our field, such as the quality of the operators and the craftsmanship of the jade carving masters. As time goes by, Mr. Nan Guo will eventually be eliminated, and the bad sellers will be eliminated. Artron Art Network: At present, the processing technology in Xinjiang is slightly inferior to that in developed regions. Will the gap in jade carving be compensated in the future? Wang Jiansheng: The overall level of our Xinjiang is worse than that of the inside. Eight of the ten people in the mainland have come out and eight of them are good, and the three of us who have come out with three are good, and this difference may be present. However, my development stamina is not worse than them. I just went to the Baoxie in the morning and got such a message. The data shows that the level of these children in our country has reached a new level, all young people, doing a good job. Artron Art Network: “National Stone Cup†itself is a completely non-profit project, does not participate in any commercial operations, but it has a certain impact on the entire jade carving industry in Xinjiang? Wang Jiansheng: Certainly. It has been held for ten consecutive years and is held every year at this time. Through the "National Stone Cup", the technical upgrading of the Xinjiang carving industry team has been greatly promoted. I haven’t commented on this year, but I haven’t commented on it next year. Obviously, the engraving is poor, so I can find the problem myself. We used to ride the China Tiangong Award car, which is not isolated. Locally won the Gold Award and some of the Silver Awards have creative works to be sent to Beijing to compete for the Tiangong Award. This association also motivates our engraving to require such a platform. The things I participated in were also honored to have won many awards, including the Hundred Flowers Award and the Tiangong Award. Artron Art Network: There are other awards or other activities in Xinjiang to stimulate the entire jade carving industry? Wang Jiansheng: We also have a qualification for the title of master craftsman. This is also an activity with a threshold. The financial loan project that our alliance has linked with the financial sector is to use the leverage of capital to sway the market of Hetian jade. It should be said that the injection of several hundred million yuan in these years has been loaned to different businesses. If you have a good reputation in the industry, there is no bad record, plus the business has done a good job, to achieve a certain scale, you have a certain amount of money, and you want to get a leap-forward development, obviously need capital support. In the industry, I have seen and experienced some business opportunities. With the intervention of capital, the same level as I have now opened the distance. This is really true. They rely on courage and the instigation of the leverage of capital. I also borrowed a small amount of money, because the age was bold and lost to young people. Artron Art Network: I talked to some masters two days ago. Now there are many people who come to Xinjiang to study jade carvings in Xinjiang. Is this phenomenon still the most attractive place? Wang Jiansheng: The only attraction is the one – the market. Although the market here has been hit by the terrorist incident, I can tell you that this market will not decline, and the recession will not go anywhere. Information Alliance's Hetian Seed Standard The Information Alliance Chamber of Commerce is the earliest formulation of Hetian jade seed material standards in Xinjiang and provides the corresponding market reference price. Wang Jiansheng is the secretary general of the Chamber of Commerce. Therefore, the reporter also consulted Wang Jiansheng on relevant issues. Artron Art Network: I heard that the Information Alliance developed the Hetian jade rating standard two years ago? Wang Jiansheng: Two years ago, the Hetian jade market was very good. After a period of downturn, it is now warming up. When the market is booming. It’s easier to make money, but there are also some shoddy and confusing phenomena. Our industry needs a positive energy to regulate, and the Hetian jade rating standard was born. Artron Art Network: The specific time when the information alliance was established and what kind of organization or organization does it belong to? Wang Jiansheng: On August 23, the Xinjiang Hetianyu Market Information Alliance Chamber of Commerce was established in Urumqi. Originally a civil organization, it has been around for more than two years. Now a business association, one of the founders is Ma Guoqing of the trading center, and is currently the president of the Information Alliance Chamber of Commerce. This organization is a bit like a quality inspection agency, such as a mineral ore organization, a gemstone association. A long time ago, Ma found that there were some problems in the market. He felt that it was necessary to regulate the situation of Hetian Yu’s sky-high price. It is urgent to formulate the standard of Hetian jade. For example, how to price 200 g or less of the seed material or more than 500 g. This standard has been in operation for two years. Many of the media in the country who care about Hetian jade borrowed the price information we published, such as 3A level one gram two to 30,000, 2A level one gram one to one thousand five, different levels, different qualities have different guidance price. Artron Art Network: What is 3A? What is 2A? Is there any value and characterization for reference? Wang Jiansheng: Now there is a book graded by Hetian Baiyu Seeds, which is as thick as 100,000 words. It has made a clear statement on 3A grade materials, 3A grade special grade materials and first grade processing materials. However, the shape of each level is still abstract, such as long natural shape, drop shape, duck egg shape, oval shape... The expression of jade texture is not exhaustive, such as no visible structure, visible light flashlight can sometimes see The thick and fine texture will have an inconspicuous structure, which will be beautiful to the naked eye. The texture plus several skin colors, such as jujube red, sprinkled gold, autumn pear, orange red, these skin colors are described as first-class products, when you get a piece of jade can make a preliminary judgment accordingly. Even if you don't understand jade, you can get a piece of jade. As long as you carefully compare it, you can distinguish different grades of jade. At this point, both the market is regulated and the collectors are protected. For 20,000 yuan of stone, you spent 30,000 or even 60,000, and you can't sell it if you want to change hands. This opaque transaction is not good for the development of the market. The price information released by the Xinjiang Hetian jade market alliance was only released for one year, and other markets and networks across the country adopted it. Yachang Art Network: What is the market reference price guidance given? Wang Jiansheng: The release is not made out of thin air but has a basis. Urumqi industry players, if you buy a stone spent 5 million, we will calculate the unit price according to this. At the same time, I will go to Korla, to Hotan, and even to Suzhou and Yangzhou for research. People in the industry think that the price we publish is relatively transparent and the profit margin is small. 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